{"id":30414,"date":"2025-11-30T08:42:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-30T07:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/nieuws\/armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism\/"},"modified":"2025-11-30T08:42:00","modified_gmt":"2025-11-30T07:42:00","slug":"armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/en\/news\/armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism\/","title":{"rendered":"Armenian Patriarch: Pope Leo\u2019s visit is \u2018practical ecumenism\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Armenian Apostolic Patriarch of Constantinople, Sahak II Marshalian, says Christian Churches need to find new ways &#8220;to think about and model a new pattern of ecumenism.\u201d<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><b>By Christopher Wells<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The First Council of Nicaea, celebrated 1700 years ago, \u201cis a very important reference point for us, for unity, since it happened and it lasted,\u201d says the Armenian Patriarch of Constantinople, Sahak II Marshalian. \u201cThe effects of Nicaea never disappeared,\u201d he notes. \u201cIt is a living fact among Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant churches. Therefore, it is a uniting point for us, practically also.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Pope Leo\u2019s visit to Nicaea \u2018a turning point\u2019<\/h2>\n<p>In an interview with Vatican News ahead of the Pope\u2019s visit to Istanbul, Patriarch Sahak II explains that the anniversary of the first ecumenical council can therefore \u201cbe an opportunity to \u2018fire\u2019 that understanding,\u201d and achieve \u201ca better understanding and collaboration of unity. In this sense, I think it\u2019s an inspiring point. And it\u2019s important that we emphasize \u2013 all the churches \u2013 the importance of this anniversary. And His Holiness\u2019 presence here, in that sense, in Nicaea, I think will be a turning point.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For the Armenian Apostolic Church, the largest Christian community in T\u00fcrkiye, the visit of the Pope \u2013 \u201cthe head of the Catholic Church, the biggest brother\u201d Church &#8212; is \u201ca great consolation\u201d and \u201can important event,\u201d especially in light of the concurrent celebration of the anniversary of Nicaea, the Patriarch says.<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure>    <picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1500.844.jpeg 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg 1x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1000.563.jpeg 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.jpeg 1x\"><source  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-original=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg\" alt=\"Pope Leo XIV and Patriarch Sahak II during the Pope's visit to the Armenian Apostolic Cathedral in Istanbul\" title=\"Pope Leo XIV and Patriarch Sahak II during the Pope's visit to the Armenian Apostolic Cathedral in Istanbul\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764485805518.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg\">    <\/picture>       <\/figure>\n<p>    Pope Leo XIV and Patriarch Sahak II during the Pope&#8217;s visit to the Armenian Apostolic Cathedral in Istanbul \u00a0 (@Vatican Media)   <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<h2>Practical ecumenism<\/h2>\n<p>Patriarch Sahak II notes that ecumenism has been one of the most important agenda items for the churches in recent decades, and asks, in light of the papal visit, \u201cHow can we be united?\u201d How can \u201cthe old historical hostilities\u201d be united so that Christians can be brothers \u201cand that unity can be reached to perfection?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For that reason, \u201cthe church speaks, prays, and holds meetings.\u201d So, he says, \u201cThe visit of the Popes is a practical ecumenism.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>A new pattern of ecumenism<\/h2>\n<p>Patriarch Sahak II explains that there are many \u201cplatforms of dialogue\u201d between the Armenian Church and the Catholic Church, and that there are very few issues that remain to be discussed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut there are historical divisions, and bridging them is very difficult,\u201d he says. Sometimes, despite sincere efforts on all sides, \u201cthe old systems cannot be broken and made anew.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTherefore,\u201d he continues, \u201cin ecumenism, I think we need new ways, forgetting the past, to think and to model a new pattern of ecumenism.\u201d The Patriarch says that practical unity can contribute toward the goal of \u201cfull communion nearly realized.\u201d<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure>    <picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1500.844.png 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.png 1x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1000.563.png 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.png 1x\"><source  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-original=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.png\" alt=\"Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian speaks with Vatican News ahead of Pope Leo XIV's Apostolic Journey\" title=\"Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian speaks with Vatican News ahead of Pope Leo XIV's Apostolic Journey\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/multimedia\/2025\/novembre\/30\/PATRIARCA-ARMENO---ING.00_02_01_09.Immagine002.png\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.png\">    <\/picture>       <\/figure>\n<p>    Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian speaks with Vatican News ahead of Pope Leo XIV&#8217;s Apostolic Journey   <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>He cites both reciprocal visits of church men along with the exchange of Catholic and Armenian students who spend time studying in the schools of the other church. \u201cThis really makes for practical ecumenism, which is more realistic than theoretical or theological discussions,\u201d the Patriarch says.<\/p>\n<p>He points to ordinary Christians, even churchmen, who \u201cpass through the barricade of full communion\u201d as an example of full communion. \u201cBut the problem, of course, is the expression of the full communion among the churches,\u201d he says, adding, \u201cWe hope we can reach that point.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>The Armenian Apostolic Church in T\u00fcrkiye<\/h2>\n<p>Patriarch Sahak II heads one of four Sees of the Armenian Apostolic Church, an Oriental Orthodox Church united under the spiritual leadership of the Catholicos of Armenia and of all Armenians in Holy Echmiadzin. The Oriental Orthodox Churches are distinct from both the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches in that it recognizes only the first three ecumenical councils.<\/p>\n<p>Pope Leo\u2019s first Apostolic Journey outside of Italy included, on Sunday, a brief visit to the Patriarchal Church of the Holy Mother of God, in the Kumkap\u0131 quarter of Istanbul\u2019s Fatih district, where he was welcomed by Patriarch Sahak as \u201cour brother in Jesus Christ.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYour presence among us today,\u201d the Patriarch said, \u201cis not only an honour, it is a blessing for our community, for the churches of T\u00fcrkiye, and for all who labour for the unity of Christians.\u201d<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure>    <picture><source media=\"(min-width: 1024px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1500.844.jpeg 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg 1x\"><source media=\"(min-width: 768px)\"  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.1000.563.jpeg 2x, \/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.jpeg 1x\"><source  data-original-set=\"https:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.500.281.jpeg\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-original=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg\" alt=\"Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian and Pope Leo XIV stand together by the memorial plaque commemorating the Pope's visit.\" title=\"Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian and Pope Leo XIV stand together by the memorial plaque commemorating the Pope's visit.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/content\/dam\/vaticannews\/agenzie\/images\/srv\/2025\/11\/27\/viaggio-apostolico-in-tuerkiye-e-libano\/1764486704076.JPG\/_jcr_content\/renditions\/cq5dam.thumbnail.cropped.750.422.jpeg\">    <\/picture>       <\/figure>\n<p>    Patriarch Sahak II Marshalian and Pope Leo XIV stand together by the memorial plaque commemorating the Pope&#8217;s visit. \u00a0 (@Vatican Media)   <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Thank you for reading our article. You can keep up-to-date by subscribing to our daily newsletter.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vaticannews.va\/en\/newsletter-registration.html\" alt=\"newsletter-link\" title=\"newsletter-link\"> Just click here<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u00a9 Dicastery for Communication &#8211; Vatican News<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Armenian Apostolic Patriarch of Constantinople, Sahak II Marshalian, says Christian Churches need to find new ways &#8220;to think about and model a new pattern of ecumenism.\u201d By Christopher Wells The First Council of Nicaea, celebrated 1700 years ago, \u201cis a very important reference point for us, for unity, since it happened and it lasted,\u201d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":30415,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[859],"tags":[],"bron":[1015],"class_list":["post-30414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","bron-vatican-news"],"acf":[],"featured_image_urls":{"medium":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/30414-armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism-300x169.jpeg","thumbnail":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/30414-armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism-150x150.jpeg","echo_preview_image":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/30414-armenian-patriarch-pope-leos-visit-is-practical-ecumenism-260x146.jpeg"},"appp_media":null,"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.3 - 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