{"id":45387,"date":"2026-04-13T21:22:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-13T19:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/nieuws\/60-minutes-takes-stock-of-catholic-church-under-leo-with-top-cardinals\/"},"modified":"2026-04-13T21:22:00","modified_gmt":"2026-04-13T19:22:00","slug":"60-minutes-takes-stock-of-catholic-church-under-leo-with-top-cardinals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/explorecatholic.nl\/en\/nieuws\/60-minutes-takes-stock-of-catholic-church-under-leo-with-top-cardinals\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201860 Minutes\u2019 takes stock of Catholic Church under Leo with top cardinals"},"content":{"rendered":"

Three influential American cardinals spoke about the Church under Pope Leo XIV in an interview<\/a> on \u201c60 Minutes<\/a>\u201d this week.<\/p>\n

In two segments<\/a> of the show, Cardinal Robert McElroy of Washington, D.C.; Cardinal Joseph Tobin of Newark, New Jersey; and Cardinal Blaise Cupich of Chicago spoke on the Church in America, from increased conversions and the meaning of patriotism to controversial topics like the Iran ceasefire and immigration enforcement.<\/p>\n

Why are young people joining the Church?<\/h2>\n

Cupich said he does not entirely know what is behind the reported rise in young people entering the Catholic Church<\/a> as U.S. dioceses report elevated numbers<\/a> of Easter baptisms and confirmations.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe are doing some surveys about people who are coming to church to see what\u02bcs motivating them,\u201d he said. \u201cI do think, though, that research is showing that there really is a deep hunger in the hearts of young people for something that can help them with the meaning of life. But also there\u02bcs a woundedness on the part of young people that they are seeking healing for.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWe don\u02bct have all the answers, but we are going to try to drill down to find out more about that,\u201d Cupich said.<\/p>\n

McElroy pointed to a need for \u201cmoral leadership in the world\u201d as a partial explanation.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhat a tragedy to have a world in which there are not moral leaders,\u201d he said. \u201cI think young people, and young adults particularly, are looking for a sense of that in their lives \u2014 and some of those are coming into the Church for that reason.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThe number of those joining the Church this year is a record for the archdiocese, which is a wonderful thing,\u201d he said of the Archdiocese of Washington, which had 1,800 converts.<\/p>\n

Tobin credited some of the rising interest and attendance in the Catholic Church to Pope Leo.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u02bcve had the privilege of working closely with four popes: very different people in a lot of ways, but each one in some way was the right one for that moment in time,\u201d Tobin said. \u201cI believe that Pope Leo is the right man at this time.\u201d<\/p>\n

When asked about the effect of the sex abuse scandal on people leaving the Church, Cupich noted that it \u201cprompts us to be even more forthright in doing everything possible to protect children, but also to address the harm that was done.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThat, I think, is something that\u02bcs always on the front burner for us with regard to the fall off in terms of people practicing,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

Cupich noted, however, that other religions are seeing declines in membership as well.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u02bcs also part of the secularization that\u02bcs happening in society today,\u201d he said. \u201cPeople have a lot more options on Sunday, on the weekend, than they did before. So I think there are a number of factors that contributed to that decline.\u201d<\/p>\n

What does patriotism look like for Catholics?<\/h2>\n

In light of the upcoming 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States, the cardinals shared their thoughts on a Catholic understanding of patriotism.<\/p>\n

\u201cFor us as Catholic Americans, we love our country because of what it aspires to be and has for the past 250 years,\u201d McElroy said.<\/p>\n

\u201cWe love our country not merely because we were born here, if we were, but rather because of its aspirations of democracy, justice, equality, of freedom that have been lived out with differing levels of success all through our history, and having to change it and readapt it to make it more true to its core,\u201d he continued.<\/p>\n

\u201cFor me,” Cupich said, “patriotism is about being united in the common task of creating the opportunities for everyone to flourish \u2014 that they would have the opportunity to be the person God intended them to be.”<\/p>\n

\u201cThat is part of the aspirations that immigrants came here with; an opportunity to have a fresh start,\u201d he said. \u201cSo how can we work together to make sure that everybody has an opportunity to flourish? I think that\u02bcs patriotism.\u201d<\/p>\n

Pope Leo and politics: Iran and ICE<\/h2>\n

When asked if he would like to see the first American pope be more outspoken on controversial issues, Tobin said: \u201cHe\u02bcs the pastor of the world; he\u02bcs not a pundit.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThe distinction is he\u02bcs not going to pronounce on everything, but he\u02bcs going to pronounce on what\u02bcs important,\u201d Tobin said.<\/p>\n

Recently, Pope Leo has called for an end to the war with Iran,<\/a> advocating for peace and dialogue.<\/p>\n

When asked if the Iran war is a just war<\/a> according to Catholic teaching, McElroy said it is not.<\/p>\n

\u201cCatholic faith teaches us there are certain prerequisites for a just war,\u201c he said. \u201dYou can\u02bct go for a variety of different aims. You have to have a focused aim, which is to restore justice and restore peace. That\u02bcs it.\u201d<\/p>\n

When asked about the destruction of the Iranian regime\u02bcs nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities as an aim of the war, McElroy agreed that the regime \u201cshould be removed.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u02bcs an abominable regime and it should be removed,\u201d McElroy said. \u201cBut this is a war of choice that we went to and I think it\u02bcs embedded in a wider moment in the United States that\u02bcs worrying, which is this. We\u02bcre seeing before us the possibility of war after war after war.\u201d<\/p>\n

Cupich criticized the Trump administration\u02bcs \u201cgamification\u201d of the war through social media posts and edits, calling it \u201csickening.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWe\u02bcre dehumanizing the victims of war by turning the suffering of people and the killing of children and our own soldiers into entertainment,\u201d he said. \u201cIt is sickening. To splice together movie cuts with actual bombing and targeting of people for the purposes of entertainment is sickening. This is not who we are. We\u02bcre better than this.\u201d<\/p>\n

The cardinals also shared pastoral concerns amid ongoing deportations, an issue about which Pope Leo has also spoken<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Tobin criticized the tactics used by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, saying that when immigrants \u201chave to hide their identities,\u201d this \u201ccan actually violate other guarantees of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI think somebody\u02bcs got to call that out,\u201d he said. \u201cAnd I\u02bcm not the only one.\u201d<\/p>\n

McElroy shared his concern that many immigrants \u201clive under fear.\u201d<\/p>\n

He said attendance at Spanish Masses in his archdiocese went down 30% in the past year. \u201cThirty percent \u2014 that\u02bcs a lot, and it\u02bcs all fear,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

McElroy said there “is a roundup of people throughout the country, people who have been living good, strong lives; [who have] been here a long time.” These people “raised their children here; many of their children [were] born here and are citizens,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u02bcs what our objection is.\u201d<\/p>\n

But the cardinal, who for 10 years served as bishop of San Diego, added that he does believe in strong borders, noting that under Biden, \u201cit got to a point where it was getting out of control.\u201d<\/p>\n

Recalling the pope\u02bcs recent words and actions (the pope is currently visiting Africa on his third international journey<\/a>), Cupich said Leo is \u201csending a message that his top priority right now is to be with those who are downcast and marginalized.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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